[2019-03-11 03:21:29.013] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(SpookyPurpleCat): Alright just to make sure I understand your story correctly. Athena walked onto the white ship, you asked her to leave once, then you started to toolbox her, she stunned you, brisco shot her, then you killed her? [2019-03-11 03:22:15.599] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(SpookyPurpleCat)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): toolboxing to get them "knocked senseless" debuffed and throw them out the shuttle, then they resisted so yeah. they shouldnt have gotten on our private shuttle so :shrug: [2019-03-11 03:22:30.061] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): i also just got information that they came onto our ship trying to kill ratman for valids [2019-03-11 03:22:53.119] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow): So where did their corpse end up exactly? [2019-03-11 03:23:13.507] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): in lava, the same place ratman wouldve been because of athena cause "valids" [2019-03-11 03:24:13.012] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): also the fact that a borg was watching us pew athena so we had to give the excuse it was a ling and it followed us to make sure the body was destroyed, it was hk that followed us [2019-03-11 03:38:43.500] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow): Alright, theres a couple things wrong with this situation. You killed someone after asking them to leave once. You then took their corpse and dragged it onto lava in lavaland effectivelly permanently removing them from the round. Looking through your note history its clear to me that you've really learned nothing about what kind of behavior is acceptable on the server. As such I will be applying a permanent ban. I know you are likely going to be upset with me, which I can understand. I'll give you some time to respond. [2019-03-11 03:39:48.821] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): Are you serious? im actually in awe right now [2019-03-11 03:40:05.224] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): you know that athena would do anything to get on that shuttle even if that meant killing me and my crew [2019-03-11 03:40:43.845] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow): I am completely serious. To me this is a pretty clear incident of not following escalation correctly and metagrudging athena. [2019-03-11 03:41:06.051] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): you realize I gave instructions to brisco to prevent anyone else getting on the station with lethal means as well, right? [2019-03-11 03:41:21.016] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): i gave him a gun as well and told them to keep people off the shuttle like i would have while i grabbed resources [2019-03-11 03:41:36.572] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow): I fail to see how that excuses you killing them. [2019-03-11 03:41:58.577] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): They were boarding our shuttle SOLEMNLY to kill someone [2019-03-11 03:42:19.122] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): And wouldve killed us all JUST for that [2019-03-11 03:42:46.669] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow): Syndicate comm agents are completely valid to kill, its not as if they were after some innocent. [2019-03-11 03:43:29.418] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): Still, I wasn't going to allow some random stranger to board my shuttle, after being told to leave, which then started a hunt around the ship to find them to get them to leave [2019-03-11 03:44:04.334] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): Im pretty sure you already know how athena is like, and you know that athena would go to remove me from my ship just because [2019-03-11 03:44:24.560] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow): That is not acceptable behavior. You can't kill someone because you asked them once to leave. [2019-03-11 03:44:44.191] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): go back a few rounds ago where she detained me cause "i was a head rev" after Tyrone Dindunuffin (who is still not suprisingly banned yet) [2019-03-11 03:44:51.566] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): I told them to get out more than once, check logs [2019-03-11 03:45:58.796] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): pretty sure you can go back a few rounds to whee she detained me after tyrone started beating me and i tried to use a flash to prevent them from attacking me, which ATHENA WATCHED HAPPEN, and as soon as tyrone stole my flash and started chain flashing me, athena did something- which was arrest me and call me a head rev [2019-03-11 03:46:15.198] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): round id 103424/103245 i think [2019-03-11 03:46:50.428] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): and as someone said "It's clear Athena is literally antagonistic towards you, intentionally putting you permanently out of the round as well. When you do it, it's against the rules." [2019-03-11 03:48:40.862] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow): That is not relevant to this situation. Also, you should throw someone out first, then if they come back you dunk on em. Besides in this instance it seems Athena was after a syndicate comms agent as a security officer, which honestly in my eyes seems like a valid reason for them to ignore you telling them to leave. [2019-03-11 03:49:15.187] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): They checked the ship, I followed them around, they were not on the ship, and did not leave, youre beginning to make up parts of the story here [2019-03-11 03:49:36.312] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): ratman wasnt even on the ship in the first place until athena was taken off the ship [2019-03-11 03:50:07.280] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): and also, i told them TWICE to leave, however you say once, so please actually check logs. i did try to drag them out as well but they came back and would not leave [2019-03-11 03:50:39.934] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): and i did exactly that, i tried to throw them out, they came back, got dunked on, but only athena is allowed to do that, if i do it, its apparently a permaban [2019-03-11 03:53:34.396] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): let me pull up logs for you, since you havent checked them [2019-03-11 03:53:37.955] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams)->SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow): Alright, doesn't seem we're getting anywhere with this. So I will apply the permaban now as looking through logs and testimony from individuals involved it seems you violated the rules once again. Feel free to appeal on the forums, wish you the best. [2019-03-11 03:54:07.872] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): dude what the fuck, youre genuinely siding with athena [2019-03-11 03:55:35.967] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SpookyPurpleCat/(Len Hollow)->Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams): show me where you cited the logs, and what exactly you cited, i dont think youre actually looking at the right things [2019-03-11 03:59:47.423] ADMINPRIVATE: Coconutwarrior97/(Landon Adams) has created a permanent server ban for SpookyPurpleCat. Reason: Killed an officer, Athena Hunt, then dragged their corpse into lava on lavaland. You asked Athena to leave several times, they did not and so you killed them. That is not appropriate under escalation. Considering past incidents involving athena I beleive this is metagrudging, and a failure to learn how to follow escalation properly. I feel a permanent ban is appropriate.